administration. >> so debate the top guys? >> debate the top guys. don't spend all of your time trying to make paul ryan look bad. >> the advantage is to make the top guy look good. joe biden will be selling president obama and ryan will be selling romney. >> here is the reaction earlier today. >> right now the romney campaign is running away from their positions, like unwanted step children but we're going to hold them to them and explain to the country exactly what the differences are here because the choice is very stark. >> well, what do you think they will do, chuck? do you say there's a connection between what he just said and what will happen tonight? >> yes. look, the idea that somehow that the chicago wasn't involved with this and suddenly came through, they've always been involved. this is one big team here, obama/biden. that seems silly to me. overreported about was axelrod involved. yes, that is what they are trying to do. build a bigger contrast. that is biden's job tonight, is to try to